-
- Newbie
- Posts: 6
- Joined: Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:38 pm
155km/h On 100km/h Zone. Reduced To 149km/h By The Officer
Hello everyone,
Last week I was driving back to Montreal from Toronto on 401. I got pulled over and the officer told me that he caught me 155km/h so he should impound the car and suspend my license (i have a Quebec license). After a few minutes talk, he decided to give me a break and wrote 149 km/h on the ticket (and i appreciate that)
Now I have 359$ ticket to pay and face 5 demerit points on my Quebec License for 49km over. I'm not a "wealthy" guy so the 359$ will hurt me real bad but my biggest problem is the demerit points. With 5 demerit points probably I'll have my Communauto membership cancelled (it is a car sharing service. i don't have a car and i don't plan to buy one).
I don't want to fight the ticket, i'm guilty. But 5 demerit points will be a huge pain! Is there something i can do to reduce the demerit points (and the fine) ?
I hear something called "Plea Bargain". How do i do that? I guess I have to plead not guilty and demand a trial first but i don't want to that cos' I heard that the prosecutor will/can take the ticket back to it's original speed (155km/h) if I do that. I don't want to risk that.
Is it possible to go to court and tell the clerk something like "I'd like to plead guilty for a lesser charge".
Thanks for the answers and help in advance.
Re: 155km/h On 100km/h Zone. Reduced To 149km/h By The Offic
diemperdidi wrote:Hello everyone,Last week I was driving back to Montreal from Toronto on 401. I got pulled over and the officer told me that he caught me 155km/h so he should impound the car and suspend my license (i have a Quebec license). After a few minutes talk, he decided to give me a break and wrote 149 km/h on the ticket (and i appreciate that)
Now I have 359$ ticket to pay and face 5 demerit points on my Quebec License for 49km over. I'm not a "wealthy" guy so the 359$ will hurt me real bad but my biggest problem is the demerit points. With 5 demerit points probably I'll have my Communauto membership cancelled (it is a car sharing service. i don't have a car and i don't plan to buy one).
I don't want to fight the ticket, i'm guilty. But 5 demerit points will be a huge pain! Is there something i can do to reduce the demerit points (and the fine) ?
I hear something called "Plea Bargain". How do i do that? I guess I have to plead not guilty and demand a trial first but i don't want to that cos' I heard that the prosecutor will/can take the ticket back to it's original speed (155km/h) if I do that. I don't want to risk that.
Is it possible to go to court and tell the clerk something like "I'd like to plead guilty for a lesser charge".
Thanks for the answers and help in advance.
If the ticket's been reduced from a 50 and higher charge to a 49 and lower (and it's been recorded as such), there's no prosecutor who will be willing to deal with you further. That deal is as hot as it gets in my opinion.
Re: 155km/h On 100km/h Zone. Reduced To 149km/h By The Offic
diemperdidi wrote:Is it possible to go to court and tell the clerk something like "I'd like to plead guilty for a lesser charge".
No, only the Crown can offer you a plea to a lesser charge. While the Courts will sometimes reduce your fine if there is good reason, they cannot change the offence itself or the associated number of demerit points.
The problem is that since you were already given a huge break at the side of the road, it's very unlikely you'll be offered any further reduction by the Crown.
-
- Newbie
- Posts: 6
- Joined: Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:38 pm
Re: 155km/h On 100km/h Zone. Reduced To 149km/h By The Offic
Stanton wrote:diemperdidi wrote:Is it possible to go to court and tell the clerk something like "I'd like to plead guilty for a lesser charge".
No, only the Crown can offer you a plea to a lesser charge. While the Courts will sometimes reduce your fine if there is good reason, they cannot change the offence itself or the associated number of demerit points.
The problem is that since you were already given a huge break at the side of the road, it's very unlikely you'll be offered any further reduction by the Crown.
thanks for the answers.
I was hoping, as this is my first ticket ever... But you're right, i already had a "huge break", so i guess the best thing i can do is pay the ticket as it is...
-
- Newbie
- Posts: 6
- Joined: Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:38 pm
Re: 155km/h On 100km/h Zone. Reduced To 149km/h By The Offic
One more question: can anybody tell me in detail, what exactly is the "Option 2: Plead guilty with an explanation" and what happens if I choose that option?
thanks
Re: 155km/h On 100km/h Zone. Reduced To 149km/h By The Offic
It means you would be admitting guilt to your current charge of 49 over. You would then basically explain to the Justice of the Peace why they should show some leniency. At their discretion, and with good cause (i.e. financial hardship due to unemployment) they can reduce the fine, give more time to pay, etc. They cannot however reduce the charge or it's associated demerit points.
-
- Newbie
- Posts: 6
- Joined: Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:38 pm
Re: 155km/h On 100km/h Zone. Reduced To 149km/h By The Offic
Thanks Stanton. So, I think the best i can do is plead guily with an explanation.
...and never speed again...
-
- Newbie
- Posts: 6
- Joined: Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:38 pm
Re: 155km/h On 100km/h Zone. Reduced To 149km/h By The Offic
OK, so, if I plead guilt with an explanation, "maybe" Justice of the Peace can reduce the fine.
Does anyone has an opinion based on their experience how much they usually reduce the fine? Going to court will cost me around 60-70 $
- admin
- Site Admin
- Posts: 1126
- Joined: Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:04 pm
- Location: Guelph, Ontario, Canada
- Contact:
Re: 155km/h On 100km/h Zone. Reduced To 149km/h By The Offic
Maybe consult with a Paralegal. There is a form at the bottom for a free quote.
-
- Newbie
- Posts: 6
- Joined: Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:38 pm
Re: 155km/h On 100km/h Zone. Reduced To 149km/h By The Offic
admin wrote:Maybe consult with a Paralegal. There is a form at the bottom for a free quote.
yeah thanks, i did that already.
they usually want unbelievable amounts for their "services" like 500-600$ and all of them told me that going to a trial is too risky in my situation.
so i'll pay them 500 and they will try to reduce the fine and maaaaaaybe demerit points.
seems like a good deal?
well thanks anyway...
-
- Similar Topics
-
-
New post 155Km in 100Km zone
by daniel1234 in Stunt DrivingLast post by argyll Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:45 pm
-
-
-
New post 156km/h reduced to 149km/h on the spot in 100 km zone
Last post by bend Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:30 pm
-
-
-
New post 139km/h in a 100km/h zone reduced to 129km/h
Last post by liveontheedge Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:36 am
-
-
-
New post Stunt driving 155km over in 100 zone.
by turtlezlol in Stunt DrivingLast post by turtlezlol Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:30 am
-
-
-
New post 129km/h (Reduced by the officer from 131km/h) in 80km/h zone
Last post by hankgong Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:22 pm
-
-
-
New post Can I still Appeal after trail (150km, reduced 149km) help!!
by J66 in Courts and ProcedureLast post by J66 Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:39 pm
-
-
-
New post Speeding 146km in 100km (reduced to 129km)
Last post by Radar Identified Sat Dec 06, 2008 1:12 pm
-
-
-
New post 159 km/h in a 100km/h zone (G2)
by pruzhinkin in Stunt DrivingLast post by dedeoaraujo Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:00 pm
-
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 6 guests