Okay, so as you guys can see in my previous thread, I got a ticket for "Red Light - Failed to stop". The ticket i got was in Scarborough. What paralegal/lawyers would you guys recommend I go with. Cost isn't really an issue, but I would really like to get this ticket dismissed. So far the ones I've been suggested are: - OTT Legal - Benny Zappia - wewinitoritsfree.com [heard very good and very bad reviews, idk if he's legit or not] - Redline - xCoppers I'm not sure who to go with, I want one who is more likely to get the ticket dismissed. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Okay, so as you guys can see in my previous thread, I got a ticket for "Red Light - Failed to stop". The ticket i got was in Scarborough. What paralegal/lawyers would you guys recommend I go with. Cost isn't really an issue, but I would really like to get this ticket dismissed.
So far the ones I've been suggested are:
- OTT Legal
- Benny Zappia - wewinitoritsfree.com [heard very good and very bad reviews, idk if he's legit or not]
- Redline
- xCoppers
I'm not sure who to go with, I want one who is more likely to get the ticket dismissed. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Zappa, I have tried him once and fired him mid case. I use MG Legal Services. They are a smaller firm, but at least you can build a relationship with them, and know whose going to be helping you. Its a really personalized approach. www.mglegalservices.com
Zappa, I have tried him once and fired him mid case. I use MG Legal Services. They are a smaller firm, but at least you can build a relationship with them, and know whose going to be helping you. Its a really personalized approach. www.mglegalservices.com
Dual thread. You admit you committed the offence, unless there's a fatal error on the ticket a paralegal is going to be very very very unlucky to get the ticket dismissed. It's a slam dunk for the prosecution - officer testified you ran the red and you need some compelling evidence to effectively say he's lying. If expense is no object, pay the fine, pay the shall increase in premium for a first ticket and drive like a granny. You'll just waste money on a paralegal.......... But that's just my advice, it's your money do do with as you wish.
Dual thread. You admit you committed the offence, unless there's a fatal error on the ticket a paralegal is going to be very very very unlucky to get the ticket dismissed. It's a slam dunk for the prosecution - officer testified you ran the red and you need some compelling evidence to effectively say he's lying. If expense is no object, pay the fine, pay the shall increase in premium for a first ticket and drive like a granny. You'll just waste money on a paralegal.......... But that's just my advice, it's your money do do with as you wish.
Former Ontario Police Officer. Advice will become less relevant as the time goes by !
Zappa, I have tried him once and fired him mid case. I use MG Legal Services. They are a smaller firm, but at least you can build a relationship with them, and know whose going to be helping you. Its a really personalized approach. http://www.mglegalservices.com
I also called OTT-Legal and they told me that there is a 60% chance they can get it dismissed and a 40% chance they can get it reduced. What do you guys think?
I also called OTT-Legal and they told me that there is a 60% chance they can get it dismissed and a 40% chance they can get it reduced. What do you guys think?
You MUST get disclosure before you decide on a defense. Any paralegal or lawyer who says they can get it dismissed with an X% chance without seeing disclosure first is not to be trusted in my opinion. Plead Not Guilty and request a trial with the officer present. Once you get your notice of trial, then request disclosure (officers notes). Once you get the disclosure then go see some paralegals and see what they say. No point paying them to do the easy parts that you can do yourself.
You MUST get disclosure before you decide on a defense. Any paralegal or lawyer who says they can get it dismissed with an X% chance without seeing disclosure first is not to be trusted in my opinion.
Plead Not Guilty and request a trial with the officer present. Once you get your notice of trial, then request disclosure (officers notes). Once you get the disclosure then go see some paralegals and see what they say. No point paying them to do the easy parts that you can do yourself.
jsherk is absolutely right.... I have been to several court proceedings and seen paralegals come and present several cases in about 5 minutes (if that) They tend to take plea deals and go back to the client saying this is the best they could do and make several hundred dollars for doing nothing at all. You could do this for no charge.
jsherk is absolutely right....
I have been to several court proceedings and seen paralegals come and present several cases in about 5 minutes (if that)
They tend to take plea deals and go back to the client saying this is the best they could do and make several hundred dollars for doing nothing at all.
If you're going to make statements like that - you must be prepared to support it - so, How do you know; "They tend to take plea deals and go back to the client saying this is the best they could do and make several hundred dollars for doing nothing at all."?
Observer135 wrote:
jsherk is absolutely right....
I have been to several court proceedings and seen paralegals come and present several cases in about 5 minutes (if that)
They tend to take plea deals and go back to the client saying this is the best they could do and make several hundred dollars for doing nothing at all.
You could do this for no charge.
If you're going to make statements like that - you must be prepared to support it - so,
How do you know;
"They tend to take plea deals and go back to the client saying this is the best they could do and make several hundred dollars for doing nothing at all."?
As I said it in my post, I have seen it with my own eyes... Now, let's be clear, not all of them do this, so the question is how to find the ones that actually work hard for you... I myself used an x-copper in early 90's to get off a speeding ticket, was paced on 401 at night time, he charged me $450 at the time (over 3 times the cost of the ticket) but he did get the charge completely dismissed, I never had to show up to court. Was it worth it? Yes, for sure, my insurance savings paid for his fee in one year. Have I ever been able to find any one else who could do this over 15 years later for my second ticket? No, because he had moved and people who started offering this type of service mushroomed, so the competition became more fierce. When they need to offer a lower fee structure due to competition, they need to cut corners to increase the volume of the cases they deal with, it's simple economics. Based on the exception you took to my opinion, I take it you are in this profession, I should clarify, no all of such professionals do this, but it seems majority I have seen at the court do. In my readings on Canlii I came across an agent defending his client in court and the amount work he had done was impressive and mind bugling. Proof there are some great agents out there that do not take the easy road. Cheers
karra wrote:
"They tend to take plea deals and go back to the client saying this is the best they could do and make several hundred dollars for doing nothing at all."?
As I said it in my post, I have seen it with my own eyes...
Now, let's be clear, not all of them do this, so the question is how to find the ones that actually work hard for you...
I myself used an x-copper in early 90's to get off a speeding ticket, was paced on 401 at night time, he charged me $450 at the time (over 3 times the cost of the ticket) but he did get the charge completely dismissed, I never had to show up to court. Was it worth it? Yes, for sure, my insurance savings paid for his fee in one year. Have I ever been able to find any one else who could do this over 15 years later for my second ticket? No, because he had moved and people who started offering this type of service mushroomed, so the competition became more fierce.
When they need to offer a lower fee structure due to competition, they need to cut corners to increase the volume of the cases they deal with, it's simple economics.
Based on the exception you took to my opinion, I take it you are in this profession, I should clarify, no all of such professionals do this, but it seems majority I have seen at the court do.
In my readings on Canlii I came across an agent defending his client in court and the amount work he had done was impressive and mind bugling.
Proof there are some great agents out there that do not take the easy road.
I don't know what to do lol I called a lot of paralegals and when I talk to them over the phone, they all make me feel so confident they will get rid of the ticket. I know they are just trying to take my money though :( My debate is between - OTT Legal - wewinitoritsfree.com [he sounds confident but i read both good/bad reviews about him so i have no clue if i should take the risk or not] - Mavericks Legal Service
I don't know what to do lol
I called a lot of paralegals and when I talk to them over the phone, they all make me feel so confident they will get rid of the ticket. I know they are just trying to take my money though
My debate is between
- OTT Legal
- wewinitoritsfree.com [he sounds confident but i read both good/bad reviews about him so i have no clue if i should take the risk or not]
Have you talked to the prosecutor yourself? it's free, and they are quite approachable...ask if they will take a plea to Disobey Lane Light, section 144(10) of the Highway Traffic Act, it is NO points...prosecutors love a guilty plea, they can get through the dockets quickly and save the trials for the more serious offences...There is a better than average chance the paralegal you hire will do that as well, of course after they have received disclosure and realize they have no real available defence.
Have you talked to the prosecutor yourself? it's free, and they are quite approachable...ask if they will take a plea to Disobey Lane Light, section 144(10) of the Highway Traffic Act, it is NO points...prosecutors love a guilty plea, they can get through the dockets quickly and save the trials for the more serious offences...There is a better than average chance the paralegal you hire will do that as well, of course after they have received disclosure and realize they have no real available defence.
Get disclosure first then talk to the paralegals. The ones that will sit down you with and discuss possible defenses as well as plea deals are the ones you want. Just telling you they can win is not enough... ask them why do they think they can win?
Get disclosure first then talk to the paralegals. The ones that will sit down you with and discuss possible defenses as well as plea deals are the ones you want. Just telling you they can win is not enough... ask them why do they think they can win?
One defense a paralegal told me about was... The cop was not looking at the same light as me, he was in front of me on the opposite side so therefore he wasn't looking at the same light as me, therefore my light could've been yellow and his could've been red. Unless he tested the lights (which I'm sure he didn't)? What do you guys think about this? Should i go with this guy? He was from Mavericks legal service.
One defense a paralegal told me about was...
The cop was not looking at the same light as me, he was in front of me on the opposite side so therefore he wasn't looking at the same light as me, therefore my light could've been yellow and his could've been red.
Unless he tested the lights (which I'm sure he didn't)?
What do you guys think about this? Should i go with this guy? He was from Mavericks legal service.
Yes that is a good defense and could possibly work and would be at the top of my list to use. But you still need to see disclosure first and see what the officers says in his notes. Maybe after he pulled you over he went back and watched both lights to see if they changed at the same time and then noted that in his notes.
Yes that is a good defense and could possibly work and would be at the top of my list to use. But you still need to see disclosure first and see what the officers says in his notes. Maybe after he pulled you over he went back and watched both lights to see if they changed at the same time and then noted that in his notes.
There's already another thread discussing the details of your charge. I've already had to delete another thread you created somewhere else regarding the same offense. Since it seems you've been able to find a handful of individuals to help you out, there's no need for two threads at this point.
t3ch9 wrote:
One defense a paralegal told me about was...
The cop was not looking at the same light as me, he was in front of me on the opposite side so therefore he wasn't looking at the same light as me, therefore my light could've been yellow and his could've been red.
Unless he tested the lights (which I'm sure he didn't)?
What do you guys think about this? Should i go with this guy? He was from Mavericks legal service.
There's already another thread discussing the details of your charge. I've already had to delete another thread you created somewhere else regarding the same offense.
Since it seems you've been able to find a handful of individuals to help you out, there's no need for two threads at this point.
I got ticket for failing to stop at stop sign in Toronto. i heard that the police officer must see the stop line, if there is one, from where he was sitting. That is exactly my case, Is it a strong case? If so do i need a picture to show that there is a stop line and a picture to show that he could not see the stop line from where he was sitting?
I got a ticket, Disobey stop sign, sec 136.1.a on dec 6th
I made a left in an intersection and was pulled over by a police officer in an unmarked car who had been sitting down the road. A classic fishing hole situation. I was genuinely surprised when he stopped me and told me I went through a stop sign without even slowing down. I know to shut up and be polite and take the ticket. I…
Yesterday morning, I rear-ended someone. I was going the speed limit. The sun was directly in front of me and it blinded my windshield and my eyes. At the same time, the person in front of me stopped/slowed down (also due to the sun). I started to slow down but didn't stop and I hit them since I couldn't see anything. I was not driving too close initially. I…
I was driving in the county at night and hit a limousine stretched out side ways across the road. The limo had its lights on and had side lighting as well. The police officer charged me with careless driving because it was "fully lit up".
It took me to the next day to figure out what had happened - what I remember made no sense. What I had run across was a "false visual reference" illusion.
I was on hwy 37 trying to make my girlfriends ganadmas mass and I live an hour away and I had an hour to get there so I was going fast but not 50 over untill some idiot got on my tail soo close that I was to concentrated on him that I kept going faster untill I got pulled over at 147 on an 80 km hwy.
I alreaddy lost 3 points and this time was just the…
Hello, got stopped today for rolling a stop sign. Ticket says failure to stop, but quotes hta 1361b.
Doesn't 1361b mean failure to yield?
Is this a fatal error? Or could it be amended at trial. How can I prepare a defence if I don't know if I'm defending the failure to stop or the failure to yield?
After he was providing me with a ticket for failure to obey to the stop sign (I am pretty sure I stopped but less than 3 seconds recommended by my driver ed. instructor), I know everybody say that..as an excuse.
Then he stopped me again to return the documents.
Any advice and feed back would be really appreciated.
Can you get evidence for whether someone had an advanced green at an intersection? My dad was making a right turn on a red (after stopping) into a plaza parking lot. He got hit by someone making a left turn from the opposite lane. The driver told the officer called to the collision that he had an advance green. My dad said he came out of nowhere which makes me…
So i was driving on Eglinton Avenue East near Rosemount Ave.
The school bus was on the the curb on the opposite side of the road while i was travelling on the middle lane of the three-laned Eglinton Avenue East (five lanes apart plus a raised median island seperating the traffic)
I could not see the school bus as my view of the bus was being obstructed by the cars in front of me and on my left hand…
Lots of good information on getting disclosure from the Crown here.
Now, I am just wondering if I will be relying upon evidence of my own at trial... do I have to voluntarily send this material to the Crown in a reasonable time before the trial, or only if they request disclosure from me?
This morning I had an exam for university. I was studying the entire night and i wanted to catch like maybe 1-2 hours of sleep before the exam so i went to sleep. I woke up like 5 hrs after and realize that I was about to miss my exam. I still could have made it so I asked my dad for his car since I was in a huge rush and he gave it to me.
I went on the highway and I was going at 135 km/h but…
the police officer was in in the opesite oncumming lane he was fallowing another car so close that i was not even able to see his cruser till he was buy he said that i was going 111 in a 80 he said he hade me on radar he only asked for me drivers licencs and never asked for my insurence so on the ticket there no insurence dose enyone think i can beat this i wana take it to cort becuse he was…
Hi I have a couple questions so I'll explain my situation and any advice would be appreciated.
Can't remember exact date so lets call it some time in 2008 I got a fine for $5000.00 for driving without in insurance. I never paid the fine and in 2012 I was pulled over and the officer asked to see my license. Although I had it on me I figured it would be under suspension for the unpaid fine from…
Alright, so I did something really stupid the other day, I was driving down a country road and wanted to hit the curves so I passed 3 cars at once, inadvertently making it up to very much past 50 over (80 limit)... Much to my chagrin there was a cop coming in the opposite direction who immediately skidded on the gravel shoulder and who I thought was 100% going to turn around and pull me over,…
Anyone know how backed this courthouse is? I submitted my ticket for trial at the end of August, and still no letter. Im scared it got lost in the mail, can i call the courthouse and find out my courtdate? Or would i have to go in personally?
I recently received a ticket for failure to use low beams - while following - Ticket was issued Sec 168 (
- it was on the 401 and no one was within 500 meters of me, I was warning a oncoming vehicle that there was an officer hiding (which is not illegal or I could not find a law against it) it was a police vehicle travelling at very high rate of speed in the opposite direction with no lights on…
I received a warning letter from MTO for a 2pts ticket.What happened is that the police officer issued a "unsafe left turn" and then changed the ticket to "failed to signal" at the scene, but she submitted both tickets!!! And I !!!ONLY!!! received the latter ticket from her(I requested trial for "failed to signal"). I recently received notice from MTO that I'm convicted for "unsafe left turn".
Hello everyone! I was given a ticket for using a hand-held communication device while driving. It was 3 am, I was at a stop light and the cop saw me with the my phone in my hand. I told him i was just checking the time on it. I received the notes a few weeks ago ill copy them down below. Any help is appreciated although i believe there's no hope for me. The cop recorded me saying what phone i…
I got pulled over about 15 or so days ago the court till this date has not received the summons what is the legal time period that the court has to follow to accept the summons from the office court says its 15 days is the legal timeframe the officer has to serve it on the court
I requested for disclosure of information two months ago.
I received the radar manual after one month, but not others (including maintenance/calibration record of the radar, certificate of police training). On further pursuit, the prosecutor told me that he did not have them and he did not see why I needed these documents. He said he did not know where to get them when I asked.
Last Friday I was pulled over by an OPP motorcycle cop who informed me I was going 134. I was on the SB 404, I did see him parked under a bridge and when I passed him he was not on his bike.
I'm hoping to get some insight for a defense in this case.
I was in lane 1 and I had a car in front of me, and a car behind me, also there was a car speeding down Lane 3 passing everyone and moved quickly into…
