Well said!
we share the road. It is not just for cars, but for peds, bikes, motocycles etc. These lastest deaths are very troubling

Thank you for taking time to reply. yes i asked for disclosure originally. They sent me the officers notes.The prosecutor just told me that they schedule all trials on dates that the officers are working. If they need the officer they will call him and he drives over. He offered me Disobey Sign (2 points) and same fine-329$ he will not change fine amount. Looks like full docket again today. he gave me time to think about it. I am first on trial list based on last time here. The officer is from Tillsonburg OPP and I am at Woodstock Court house. Perhaps I should wait as long as I can and hope if...

wow,
its that time again. Jan 21 coming up. i did not go through the procedure of filing for 11b, intimidated etc.
Will I be in a position to delay this again?
Can I say that I would like a new date as I will be making a constitutional challenge?
should i just plea bargain and cut my losses? can i ask judge for even lower fine amount after making deal with prosecutor? This will be my third trip from toronto to woodstock. The time off work, gas money, low income due to ecomony etc

it just seems that the prosecutor puts off anyone who is pleaing not guilty. we are always put at the end and ive had to wait for hours while they deal with everyone else. It may seem unfair, but this is standard procedure, as hwybear says. Guilty pleas are handled expeditiously because the matter is essentially "closed" and it is a formality. It also encourages both parties to reach an agreement. In the same vein, at trials I've been present at, the Crown also announces which charges are being withdrawn at the outset, so in my view it works both ways. The way I see it, putting off ...

what more is there please?

If the new trial is close to a year from the offence date you can file for a stay based on a Charter 11b arguement. You can find File Form 4F on http://www.ticketcombat.com . Fill out the form with all of your info and send the copies to all parties involved. What you had there was the crown trying to push through as many cases as possible without trial......dirty pool. Good job at holding your ground. I found this in CanLii-1987. Is this the type of thing I should be quoting from? In other word as a result of the inadequacy of the institutional resources-overbooking the day-my 'day in court'...

Reflections wrote:

gatorMan wrote:

liveontheedge wrote:The plea bargain usually takes place 15 mins before the JP enters the court room and during the break.
In many cases the Crown will offer a lower charge, if the Crown does not you can initiate the plea bargain. Don't forget to check for the cop's presence before taking the Crown's offer.

How do you check for their presence? what if i dont remember what he looks like?

You'll have to remember what the officer looks like. Otherwise, you could wander around chatting up the cops you see and reading their name tags.

Good idea!
Hope they dont get the wrong idea about my orientation!

Thank you reflections!!! The date of my alleged offence was 24 March 2009. when they asked for adjourmnet they started with Dec 16. I said that I could not make it because I was travelling out of the country (UK for holiday). they then choose March 17, unfortunately that is March break and the famuily and i are away again!. They then said what about January 20 and i let them know ii had an important business tripplanned to windsor for that day. Justice was getting frustrated i beleive and asked if that did not give me time to rearrange my schedule. I reconcidered everything and under duress de...

liveontheedge wrote:The plea bargain usually takes place 15 mins before the JP enters the court room and during the break.
In many cases the Crown will offer a lower charge, if the Crown does not you can initiate the plea bargain. Don't forget to check for the cop's presence before taking the Crown's offer.

How do you check for their presence? what if i dont remember what he looks like?

Thanks for such a great site. Thanks to all the people that take time to respond and post follow ups they are very helpful. So here is the deal.... I had a court date set for yesterday in Woodstock Ontario-I live in tToronto. I did use this iste and had all my preparation ready. i went to court and got there early. I go there at 1 oclock for the 2 oclock docket. Shortly after 2 oclock I noticed a fellow popping his head out of a door and calling numbers. I finally asked someone and they ssaid that is the prodecutor and he is interviewing to see where to put you on the docket. They then told me...