29/km Over In A 50, First Ticket. Help Me Fight It!
First off, excellent site Ive been reading many stories and have learned a lot about in the legal system in the short time Ive been here. Ive also read a bit on ticket combat and it is very good reading as well.
I appreciate any time that you people put into helping me and I will provide as much information and update the thread every step of the way.
Secondly, My ticket. Travelling into Ingersoll on Highway 19 I set the cruise control to 90KM/H and somehow made my way to the front of a group of cars (setting the pace I suppose) Into town it turns into a 60 for 1KM or less and then a 50KM. as I just passed the 50 sign I noticed a cop and laid on the brakes. I quickly looked behind me to make sure I had not scared the guy behind me and noticed a car and behind him a larger truck very close. I slowed to 50 and passed the cop. He pulled out behind me.
I turn the corner on to Ingersoll St stop and immediately get my license/registration for when the officer comes to visit me.
Conversation ( as I can remember)
OPP: Do you know why I pulled you over?
Me: I believe your going to tell me. (Stupid I know, I just could not think of what to say and didn't want to admit to anything.)
OPP: I had you doing 93 in a 50
ME: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OPP: 7 more km and I could have impounded your car
OPP: Where are you headed?
ME: Home then work, Just got out of school
OPP: Where do you go to school:
ME:(Insert Community College), sir
OPP: Ok Ill be right back stay here
He goes into his car which seems like forever. At least 5 mins.
OPP: Ok I've lowered your ticket to 29 over, 43 over was $300 and this is only $120 so be thankful.
ME: Yes sir I really appreciate it.
OPP ( goes on about how he lowered it)
ME: I don't believe how was I 43 over
OPP:Well you see the signs back there....
Me: no I understand the signs switch to 50 I just didn't think I was going that fast. Oh well Heres the ticket, No use arguing now.
Ya I cant lower it much more then that.
Thoughts:
He really went on about how he lowered it and how fast I was going. I really didn't think I was going 93, I suppose everyone says that tho. It almost felt like he was stretching the truth a little bit though. I feel they lower it so people with just pay and not argue.
Possible ways to fight :
How did he determine I was speeding with two cars hot on my tail? (Ya 43 over is prob easy to see.
He had to have radar me when I was still in the 60? But how do I prove that?
Car on other side of road?
He was on commercial property that is currently for sale? Is that OK? Ive never seen a cop there before.
Challenge his memory: My insurance was in a different persons name and he didn't even question it, and my vehicle also has a large dent (looks like baseball bat beat the poopoo out of the trunk and he didn't even ask.) I doubt he would remember either one of those and they are pretty major so...
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COP WAS AT B
50KM/H Sign is at A
Distance from A - B is ~ 140M
Ive signed the ticket and stated I wanted to plead not guilty/challenge evidence and sent it VIA registered mail ($8 Rip). Just waiting for a court date and then I will request disclosure right?