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Failure To Stop At Red Light At T-intersection

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:42 am
by nlee0927

I was driving north on Yonge St in Aurora and making a right on Industrial Parkway which is a T-intersection. The light was red when I approached the intersection. There is no pedestrian crossing at this intersection. I slowed down to make my right onto Industrial Parkway when the cop sitting in the parking lot of the commerce of chambers caught me. He issued me the Red light - failure to stop 144(18).


I'm hoping to get my fine reduced and points waived. I'm thinking of opting for option 2 for early resolution. What are my chances of having my fine reduced to the disobey lane light 144(10) and how should I present my case to the prosecutor?


Thanks!


Re: Failure To Stop At Red Light At T-intersection

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 4:49 pm
by screeech

That is a great option, no points. Your chances of that are very good, however, it will depend on your record.


Re: Failure To Stop At Red Light At T-intersection

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 3:29 pm
by nlee0927

My last infraction was about 7 years ago.. rolled through a stop sign.. failed to stop never the less :-(


Re: Failure To Stop At Red Light At T-intersection

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 6:20 pm
by screeech

That is not the same as it was a Stop Sign. With a Stop Light, there are other options.


Re: Failure To Stop At Red Light At T-intersection

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 11:33 pm
by nlee0927

So based on my record thus far, what do you think my chances are? Plus, how far back will they look into my record?


Re: Failure To Stop At Red Light At T-intersection

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:37 pm
by screeech

I think your chances are good. Ya don't shoot, Ya don't score.


Re: Failure To Stop At Red Light At T-intersection

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 9:23 am
by nlee0927

Great! Thanks for the info and advice :-)


Re: Failure To Stop At Red Light At T-intersection

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 11:15 am
by bend

While a reduction in the charge may be possible, keep in mind it's not going to do much in the way of insurance. Any type of disobeying of a traffic light or sign is treated the same (unless it involves a school bus or school crossing guard).


That being said, if a reduction would satisfy your needs, go for it. Simply show up and they'll present you with something if there's some wiggle room. You wont need to do anything else.


Re: Failure To Stop At Red Light At T-intersection

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 11:46 am
by nlee0927

I'm hoping I'd get the points dropped hence won't affect my insurance?


Re: Failure To Stop At Red Light At T-intersection

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 12:37 pm
by bobajob

points has nothing to do with insurance,

all they worry about if you have a conviction,

if you get convicted depending on if its a minor or major it could effect you insurance


"as" a rule of thumb 1 MINOR conviction usually has 0 effect on premiums,

i believe fail to stop is a minor


but the problem is the next one will then be your 2nd, so best NOT to get a first one ;)



nlee0927 wrote:I'm hoping I'd get the points dropped hence won't affect my insurance?

Re: Failure To Stop At Red Light At T-intersection

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:00 pm
by jsherk

Insurance companies do not care about demerit points. A zero demerit point charge can still affect your insurance and cause it to go up. Insurance lists your charges as Minor or Major or Serious, completely unrelated to demerits.


For example, speeding 1km/h to 15km/h over is 0 demerit points, but is considered a MINOR infraction by insurance.

Also speeding 16km/h to 30km/h over is 3 demerits, but still considered a MINOR infraction by insurance.

Insurance companies see no difference!!!


Re: Failure To Stop At Red Light At T-intersection

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 9:08 am
by nlee0927

Thanks for the clarification! :-)