Stanton wrote:You did nothing wrong. While its illegal to enter an intersection on a red light, its not illegal to clear it. Some cities have bylaws that prohibit blocking intersections like the other driver did, but it's not illegal otherwise.
(A) Even if I have the red light, and the oncoming traffic (from either side) has the green?
My driving instructor if I correctly remembered told me that blocking the intersection while under a green, going in one way-direction was not permitted. (I guess not then. . .)
However, if the car to the left did collide at me in the rear while I was clearing the intersection under such circumstances (A), would I be at fault?
15. (1) This section applies with respect to an incident that occurs at an intersection with traffic signals. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 668, s. 15 (1).
(2) If the driver of automobile "B" fails to obey a traffic signal, the driver of automobile "A" is not at fault and the driver of automobile "B" is 100 per cent at fault for the incident. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 668, s. 15 (2).
(3) If it cannot be established whether the driver of either automobile failed to obey a traffic signal, the driver of each automobile shall be deemed to be 50 per cent at fault for the incident. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 668, s. 15 (3).
Practically, my mother told me that I would have no choice but to
(i) During the green light, proceed slightly forward behind the blocking car, and turn after it clears
(ii) Back up
(iii) Stay in the intersection and slightly block the flow of the traffic until a green passes to turn
because
(i) Police wouldn't care about anything else except if i had the right-of-way or not - given RED or GREEN signals
(ii) It was my fault for proceeding and clearing, seeing that the car to the left is going pass me despite me being in the intersection
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The council of a municipality may by by-law prohibit a driver or street car operator approaching, at an intersection, a traffic control signal showing a circular green or green arrow indication from entering the intersection unless traffic in front of him or her is moving in a manner that would reasonably lead him or her to believe he or she can clear the intersection before the signal indication changes to a circular red indication. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 145 (1).
Red light
(4) Every driver or street car operator approaching a portable lane control signal showing a circular red indication and facing the indication shall stop his or her vehicle or street car and shall not proceed until a circular green indication is shown. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 146 (4).
Left turn, at intersection
(6) Where a driver or operator of a vehicle intends to turn to the left into an intersecting highway, he or she shall, where the highway on which he or she is driving has marked lanes for traffic, approach the intersection within the left-hand lane provided for the use of traffic moving in the direction in which his or her vehicle is proceeding or, where it has no such marked lanes, by keeping immediately to the right of the centre line of the highway and he or she shall make the left turn by entering the intersection to the right of the centre line or its extension and by leaving the intersection in the left-hand lane provided for the use of traffic moving in the direction in which his or her vehicle is proceeding where the lane is marked or, where no such lane is marked, by passing immediately to the right of the centre line of the intersecting highway. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 141 (6).
Yielding to traffic
(8) When under this section a driver is permitted to proceed, he or she shall yield the right of way to traffic lawfully using an intersection or, where traffic control signals are erected where a private road or driveway meets a highway, lawfully using the area controlled by the traffic control signals. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 144 (8); 2006, c. 19, Sched. T, s. 6 (3).