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Fatal Error Due To Incorrect Set Fine And Total Fine?

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:58 pm
by epochfurlan

I got a speeding ticket for 112 km/hr in a 80 lm/hr road. The ticket was not reduced by the cop.

He gave me an offence notice reading set fine $120 and total fine of $150 which is significantly less

than the correct amounts that should have been $192 and total $237.

After reviewing case law and posts herein, I am thinking of defaulting on the ticket and letting the Justice

either find the fatal law or erroneously convict and order the fine on the ticket to be enforced.

I understand the extra admin fees will be approx. $30-50 as I will pay as soon as I receive the final conviction notice- assuming the ticket is not quashed (which it should by law). I realize that if the Justice does not do his/her job correctly, I may have to appeal. My questions are:

-Since I am defaulting and not asking for trial, will the Justice see any modified offence certificate (ie: cops notice

their error and modify their copy) that has recalculated the correct amount (which should be illegal) which would then have him convict me at the higher amount?

-What are the odds that the Justice will notice the wrong amount and do they fear they will advertise their

incompetence by not quashing the ticket as they should?

-despite many cases already formalizing the "fatal error" of wrong set fines, how likely will the Justice NOT know about it?

-Am I crazy NOT to proceeds this way given a) at worse I will pay $232 + admin fee which is roughly $100 more

than the fine now BUT in return I may get the ticket quashed completely?


Re: Fatal Error Due To Incorrect Set Fine And Total Fine?

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 4:36 pm
by iFly55

Yes, it's possible the JP will receive a corrected/modified version of the ticket. It's of paramount importance you keep your version of the ticket intact.


Ontario JPs are very familiar with London v. Young and make sure the face of the ticket is proper/regular prior to convicting defaulters. But they're human, and will make mistakes... which is why you have an opportunity to appeal.


Under no circumstance should you pay this ticket even if it was $1. This ticket will eventually get quashed at the Appeal level, so be fully prepared to appeal. I would start filling out the appeal form, because you have a small window following the conviction to appeal.


There are plenty of threads here discussing how to appeal & london v. young, use the search function.


Re: Fatal Error Due To Incorrect Set Fine And Total Fine?

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:58 pm
by epochfurlan

THanks so much for your confirmation of my thinking on this matter.

I will search for the Appeal Form and advice on how to complete it. I assume I will receive either a confirmation to pay the conviction or notice that the ticket is voided?

This forum has been an excellent source of education about the OHTA. Kudos to you all!