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Expired Drivers License, And Sticker
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:26 am
by redoak181
$325 for the license and $110 for the sticker. Both expired by two weeks, I legit thought I had until the end of the birthday month.
Do either of the tickets affect insurance rates?
Are these tickets fightable, specifically the license ticket?
thanks for you time,
Re: Expired Drivers License, And Sticker
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 8:03 am
by bobajob
I've seen 2 or 3 people go into early resolution, with the new sticker and totally get off with a slapped wrist.
both will be classified as a minor and yes effect insurance
Re: Expired Drivers License, And Sticker
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 8:41 am
by jsherk
All tickets are fightable... but these ones are next to impossible to beat, unless the officer does not show up (which is very very rare).
However it is always worthwhile to plead not guilty, request a trial, and request disclosure and then show up on the trial date because as a worst case, you can probably get the fine reduced on both of them.
Re: Expired Drivers License, And Sticker
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 10:26 am
by Nanuk
jsherk wrote:All tickets are fightable... but these ones are next to impossible to beat, unless the officer does not show up (which is very very rare).
However it is always worthwhile to plead not guilty, request a trial, and request disclosure and then show up on the trial date because as a worst case, you can probably get the fine reduced on both of them.
Trials are almost always on officers dayshift, and some traffic enforcement officer have their own trial day in which they only run trials from that officers tickets. So the chances of the officer not showing are slim to none.
If you schedule for trial and meet with prosecutor before hand you can ask the crown to drop the drive no licence to a fail to produce licence s. 33(1) HTA from 325.00 down to 125.00 . They may or may not .
Re: Expired Drivers License, And Sticker
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 1:50 pm
by bobajob
as I said, I saw one guy, at my wifes ER, he went to the pro. who confirmed (a bit condescendingly) you know that your sticker expires/renews on your birthday, he looked sheepishly, ummed and arred
then the prosec. asked if he had his sticker and he said he already got it and showed him the form/receipt.
he looked at him and said, ok, case dismissed, go home
Re: Expired Drivers License, And Sticker
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:41 pm
by redoak181
Is meeting with the prosecutor typically handled by the average joe in these cases or would it be sensible to use an xcopper type service?
If anyone can do it, is there a guide somewhere on these boards that can prepare you for the procedure?
thanks,
Re: Expired Drivers License, And Sticker
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:58 pm
by jsherk
You do not need to hire anybody to meet with the prosecutor... it is usually a waste of money in my opinion. You are just going to basically meet with them and try and convince them to drop it. If they are in a good mood they might. They might not though, but more likely might offer to drop one if you plead guilty to the other. They also may not offer you any plea deal at all. Just depends how good a mood they are in that day. But there is nothing special to it except just talking to them.
Now if you are found guilty of one or both you can still ask the JP at the end of the trial to lower the fine amount, and also ask for extended time to pay like 6 months.
Re: Expired Drivers License, And Sticker
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:22 pm
by redoak181
do you meet with them on the date given after you request a trial, with an appointment sometime before the trial? is this what early resolution is?
do you go before a judge, sorry guys i'm clueless here
Re: Expired Drivers License, And Sticker
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 8:59 am
by bobajob
I'll try and find the link of my experience with ER,
it's painless and different places do differently,
on mine, I requested ER, got a date and attended, went into a private cubby and chatted with the prosecutor, got a reduction and took it, sameday went before the judge who confirmed
I was pleeding guilty, paid fine went home
my wife, everyone went into courtroom, line up to see the pros. everyone heard everything, you got let off, or a reduction, then sat down and waited for the judge
redoak181 wrote:do you meet with them on the date given after you request a trial, with an appointment sometime before the trial? is this what early resolution is?
do you go before a judge, sorry guys i'm clueless here
Re: Expired Drivers License, And Sticker
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:06 am
by bobajob
Re: Expired Drivers License, And Sticker
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:12 am
by jsherk
Early Resolution is a specific date/time for you to meet with the prosecutor instead of on the trial date.
If you just set a trial date instead, then you will meet with the prosecutor before trial starts on that day.
Re: Expired Drivers License, And Sticker
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 10:04 pm
by redoak181
thanks for the help, everyone