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What The Rules Are For Pedestrians, Roller Bladers And Cyclists At A 4-way Stop?
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:06 am
by denish
I'm wondering what the rules are for Pedestrians, Roller Bladers and Cyclists at a 4-way stop?
I know it sounds like a simple question. But I'm seeing things that are making me wonder what the exact rules are.
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:10 pm
by bend
They are not the same.
A pedestrian is a pedestrian. At a four way stop, the rules are they have the right of way. They don't have to wait their turn, so to speak. This is pretty basic stuff here.
A bicycle is defined as a vehicle. You would treat them like any other vehicle on the road. In a perfect world, they'd stop at the stop sign and you'd all proceed accordingly.
Someone on inline skates/rollerblades would probably fall under the definition of a vehicle. You would treat them like any other vehicle.
If you're talking about any of these three using the sidewalk, just use some common sense and treat everyone as a pedestrian.
Re: What The Rules Are For Pedestrians, Roller Bladers And Cyclists At A 4-way Stop?
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:10 am
by denish
Thankyou. I didn't know that about cyclists. I thought cyclists have right of way over autos. I know of a pathway that crosses an on-ramp to the highway here. I think vehicles have to give right of way to a cyclists there, of course that is a different situation from a 4-way stop.
So a pedestrian approaching a 4-way stop, should not need to stop at all and should be able to continue walking it sounds like. So if a Roller-Blader is on a side-walk approaching a 4-way stop and they are not moving too quickly, they should also be able to continue crossing without waiting - obviously safety is implied here, but they would have the right to do that?
Re: What The Rules Are For Pedestrians, Roller Bladers And Cyclists At A 4-way Stop?
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 12:56 pm
by Decatur
You’d also have to check for any local bylaws. Some cities prohibit roller blades from being on a sidewalk. Just as bicycles are in most areas.
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 3:51 pm
by denish
Wow I didn't realize there were by-laws against cyclists on side-walks. Sounds murky. We have a lot of paved pathways that are right beside the road. I'm not sure if technical they are or aren't sidewalks.
Are cyclists allowed to cross a road at an intersection where the pedestrian do? (assuming the light is green)
Re: What The Rules Are For Pedestrians, Roller Bladers And Cyclists At A 4-way Stop?
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:40 pm
by Decatur
They aren’t permitted to do this under HTA 144(29). Cyclist -ride in a crosswalk. They must dismount and walk the bicycle. $110 fine
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:44 pm
by bend
denish wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2019 3:51 pm Wow I didn't realize there were by-laws against cyclists on side-walks.
Usually, they are regulated by either age, tire size, or both. It'll depend where you live. You can drive to another municipality and the rules will change.
Peel for example regulates bicycles by tire diameter. Bikes with wheels 20 inches or less are permitted on the sidewalk. Toronto raises that to 24 inches but has an age limit (14).