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Can I Attend A Speeding Ticket Trial On Behalf Of Someone...

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 9:17 am
by Susanna

who is unable to attend due to work issues?


Im would not be acting in any respresentation/agent position..just as someone trying to help another person out.


Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 10:07 am
by Reflections

I think it just family thats allowed.....anyone else?


Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 12:32 pm
by Radar Identified

You're right, R. Or at least that's what it's supposed o be. But I have seen some JPs allow friends to represent their friends, although the Justice of the Peace is well within his/her rights to not allow it.


Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 12:36 pm
by Reflections

Damn, now I'm just an initial.......... :D


Yes You Can!

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 8:19 am
by ticketcombat

Yes you can represent someone or attend on their behalf (sorry R & RI). The only issue is whether you will go "on record" as representing them. What that means is you state your name and say that you are representing your friend. If you don't want to go on record, it becomes a little tricky.


I cover this in detail in Step 2 of my site ("Change the trial date"). It explains what you should be considering when doing this. (sorry, I can't link to my own site.)


The other aspect is unlicensed representation is allowed as long as you are not getting paid to be there and your main occupation does not involve representing people in court. The exemption to the licensing requirement is under the Law Society Act, By-law #4, Part 5, Section 30, sub 5 (pg 24). Print this and have it in your back pocket in case you get challenged in court about representing your friend.


Re: Yes You Can!

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 12:55 pm
by Reflections

ticketcombat wrote:Yes you can represent someone or attend on their behalf (sorry R & RI). The only issue is whether you will go "on record" as representing them. What that means is you state your name and say that you are representing your friend. If you don't want to go on record, it becomes a little tricky.


I cover this in detail in Step 2 of my site ("Change the trial date"). It explains what you should be considering when doing this. (sorry, I can't link to my own site.)


The other aspect is unlicensed representation is allowed as long as you are not getting paid to be there and your main occupation does not involve representing people in court. The exemption to the licensing requirement is under the Law Society Act, By-law #4, Part 5, Section 30, sub 5 (pg 24). Print this and have it in your back pocket in case you get challenged in court about representing your friend.


R & RI, that's it I'm changing my name. Bob-Oscar-Omar-Brian-Sam......there initialize that.



And I stand corrected.


Re: Yes You Can!

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 6:36 pm
by izzy

ticketcombat wrote:Yes you can represent someone or attend on their behalf (sorry R & RI). The only issue is whether you will go "on record" as representing them. What that means is you state your name and say that you are representing your friend. If you don't want to go on record, it becomes a little tricky.


I cover this in detail in Step 2 of my site ("Change the trial date"). It explains what you should be considering when doing this. (sorry, I can't link to my own site.)


The other aspect is unlicensed representation is allowed as long as you are not getting paid to be there and your main occupation does not involve representing people in court. The exemption to the licensing requirement is under the Law Society Act, By-law #4, Part 5, Section 30, sub 5 (pg 24). Print this and have it in your back pocket in case you get challenged in court about representing your friend.


So all those ex-police officers are licenced paralegals? Or how does it work? Also, I saw one of the ticket defence firms contract that you sign and they claim that law does not require them to have any education to represent you? Doesn't paralegal licence require some sort of education?


I understand that the representative of XPOLICE is not a duly qualified lawyer, barrister or solicitor and is a member of the Law Society Upper Canada. While the law expects certain minimum standards of competence from lawyers, no such minimum standards are imposed upon agents who are not lawyers. The laws of Ontario do not require agents to receive any training or demonstrate any level of expertise before being allowed to receive payment in return for representing persons in either the Provincial Offence Act or the Criminal Code of Canada
(http://xpolice.ca/pdfs/contract-newest.pdf)


Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 8:58 pm
by ticketcombat

The law changed a couple of years ago. Now all paralegals have to be licenced. As long as you are not charging money, you can represent someone else.


There was a grandfathering provision that allowed existing paralegals to write a qualification test. Now, every new paralegal must attend a 2 year community college set of courses and pass the licence examination.


There are some unlicenced "paralegals" that subcontract out to licenced ones.


Buyer beware!


Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 9:31 pm
by Radar Identified

Reflections wrote:And I stand corrected.


As do I.