-
- Jr. Member
- Posts: 66
- Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:46 pm
Motion For Appeal Granted, Conviction Overturned!!!!! I Won!
Certificate QUASHED!!!! 32km over the posted 90zone-wrong fine amount of $120set fine and 150 Total Payable-(shouda been $192 and total $232)
went for my appeal hearing @ Old City Hall
Smith v. City of Toronto
showed up with my arsenal.( I even managed to prepare a factum) Prosecutor tried arguing London v Young is different than my case as the London v. Young the defendandts never responded where as in my case I chose option 3 and failed to appear.
then I submited that in (Corporation)City of Barrie v. Porter,
[13] The person charged with an offence under the Act has a variety of options (plead guilty, plead guilty with an explanation or request a trial date). One factor that may influence the decision is the amount of the set fine. Even if an accused person requests a trial, he retains the option of not appearing and relying upon the presiding justice of the peace to determine if the certificate of offence (which is almost an exact copy of his offence notice) is "complete and regular on its face".
and whether I chose option 3, I still failed to appear which triggers the same effects as not responding.
then in EXACT words from the prosecutor- he "conceded", admited the certificate wasnt complete and regular on its face, was defective and agreed.
Justice Liebman presiding than says My Motion for appeal is granted, the conviction overturned and the certificate is quashed.
And no lie, the judge had this smile on his face like ( so did I when he uttered the words Quashed--LOL) that he knew exactly what my strategy was.
when I left the prosector gave me the thumb up as i was leaving.
I feel good today...
now lets see how long City Hall takes to refund my $160. wonder if they do it within the same 30 days as they gave me on my conviction notice when they mailed it.
And to All those who offered there help and guidance here, a BIG THANK YOU! for all your advise and links. Goes to show that the average individual can fight and win with effort and educating oneself and conducting research.
And my advise to anyone ever issued a Ticket. if your going to plead otion 2- invest some time into reasearch and go for Option 3. Imagine if everyone who received a ticket filed for #3 just how backlogged the courts would be and how many would get thrown out on that premise alone.
- Radar Identified
- High Authority
- Posts: 2881
- Joined: Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:26 pm
- Location: Toronto
Congratulations on a job well done, Off Camber! You worked hard for that one and deserved the win. NICE!
http://www.OntarioTicket.com OR http://www.OHTA.ca
- Reflections
- High Authority
- Posts: 1489
- Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:49 pm
- Location: somewhere in traffic
Where is that whistling and shouting emoticon????? Good Job.
-
- Jr. Member
- Posts: 66
- Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:46 pm
Reflections wrote:Where is that whistling and shouting emoticon????? Good Job.
thanks! hey that two thumbs up dude looks like you found him on a used car lot in Las Vegas
Nicely done! Congrats!
While a win is a win, it's always a little more gratifying when your hardwork and effort pays off (as opposed to being totally unprepared and having the cop/witness not show up).
My co-workers and friends laughed at me and shook their heads in disbelief over the amount of time I spent on my case but yo and behold all the criticism suddenly vanished and an unspoken amount of respect suddenly appeared once victory was mine.
Once again my hats off to you! From the amount of effort required, you earned it.
-
- Newbie
- Posts: 16
- Joined: Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:25 am
- Location: Peterborough
Nicely done! The more I read here the more I learn, I never could have imagined the various strategies that exist.
Well played Off_Camber, well played!
Did you go to any website to tell you in what form a s.135 appeal should be? If so, could you please send it on (or others if they know)?
I think you mean Justice Rick N. Libman. I always like to check the list of judges/JP's, so I know which one I get. There's plenty at Old City Hall, not as many in my neck of the woods. That report goes to the end of 2007, and you can then check the AGO's site to see any appointments since then (they usually have press releases for any justice or JP appointment).
What were the timelines in your case, if you don't mind me asking? Specifically, what was your offence date, and then what was the initial conviction date? How soon after the latter did you receive a letter telling you about it?
Thanks, and again, good work!
Justice Libman is one of the "heavies" of the Ontario Court of Justice, for sure. The guy literally wrote the book on how to adjudicate Provincial Offences trials in Ontario. Much of the caselaw leading up to London v. Young et al, started with his R. v. Khoshael decision in 2001.
-
- Similar Topics
-
-
New post Two forced-fatal-error cases granted leave to appeal to ONCA
by Arnblas in Courts and ProcedureLast post by Arnblas Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:12 am
-
-
-
New post Appeal Conviction - Red Light
by mayday in Failing to obey a stop sign, traffic control stop/slow sign, traffic light or railway crossing signalLast post by mayday Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:18 pm
-
-
-
New post Careless Driving Conviction and Appeal
by killerpm in Careless DrivingLast post by Simon Borys Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:20 am
-
-
-
New post Advice on how to appeal a Driving While Suspended Conviction
Last post by takesallday Mon Oct 01, 2012 11:46 am
-
-
-
New post False testimony by officer resulting in conviction - appeal?
by diabolis in Prohibited turnsLast post by Radar Identified Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:19 pm
-
-
-
New post $200 cellphone while driving fine overturned
by ME AGAIN in General TalkLast post by Decatur Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:43 pm
-
-
-
New post Conviction HTA 32-9 with G-2 Licence
by Euroed in General TalkLast post by Euroed Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:27 pm
-
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests