Told My 11b Motion Was Defective
I had a court date Fri 18th of May. This was the first time I filed an 11b motion and tried following all the steps only to be belittled and told by the Justice that my motion was defective with no further explanation other than it wasn't is job to educate me. I am uploading the 4f and 16b forms and would appreciate any input.
Thanks
FORM 4F
Courts of Justice Act
NOTICE OF CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTION
R. v. doe
NOTICE OF CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTION
The Defendant, ----, intends to claim a remedy under subsection 24 (1) of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms in relation to a violation of subsection 11 (b) of the Charter by the Government of Ontario. The defendant seeks the remedy of a stay of proceedings.
The question is to be argued on Friday, May 17th.,2013 at1:30 P.M., at # W6 ,York Civic Centre, 2700 Eglington Ave. West, Toronto, Ontario,
M6M 1V1
Offence: Speeding; PON#: 4862 999 00 0376688B-00; Offence Date: 02/05/12; Trial Date: 17/05/13; Time: 01:30 P.M.; Courtroom: W6.
The following are the material facts giving rise to the constitutional question: As shown above, 02/05/12, is the date of the offence and 08/03/13 was the date of the original Trial, 17/05/13 is the remanded Trial date. The period of time of the original trial constitutes an unreasonable delay.
The following is the legal basis for the constitutional question: The defendant has a legal right to be tried within a reasonable time. The defendant has not waived his right to a speedy trial, nor has the defendant been found at fault for the original delay. (R. v. Andrade, 2011 ONCJ 470 (CanLII.). The defendant's legal right to be tried within a reasonable time has been infringed and in doing so has violated the defendant's section 11 (b) Charter right. The defendant is requesting a stay of proceedings pursuant to Section 24(1) of the Charter.
April,5, 2013 John Doe
Toronto, Ontario
M3m 1b1
416 123 4567
TO
The Attorney General of Ontario (as required by section 109 of the Courts of Justice Act)
Constitutional Law Branch
4th floor
720 Bay Street
Toronto, Ontario M5G 2K1
fax: (416) 326-4015
The Attorney General of Canada (as required by section 109 of the Courts of Justice Act)
Suite 3400, Exchange Tower
Box 36, First Canadian Place
Toronto, Ontario M5X 1K6
fax: (416) 952-0298
Office of the Provincial Prosecutor
York Civic Centre
2700 Eglinton Avenue West
Toronto, ON M6M 1V1
Office of the Court Clerk
York Civic Centre
2700 Eglinton Avenue West
Toronto, ON M6M 1V1
RCP-E 4F (April 11, 2012)
FORM 16B
Courts of Justice Act
R. v. Vecchi
AFFIDAVIT OF SERVICE
I, JohnDoe, of the City of Toronto, MAKE OATH AND AFFIRM:
1. I served the Attorney General of Ontario with the Form 4F, Notice of Constitutional Question by sending a copy by fax to (416) 326-4015 on April 5,2013 to the Constitutional Law Branch, 4th floor, 720 Bay Street, Toronto, Ontario.
2. I served the Attorney General of Canada with the Form 4F, Notice of Constitutional Question by sending a copy by fax to (416) 952-0298 on April 5,2013 to Suite 3400, Exchange Tower, First Canadian Place, Toronto, Ontario.
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_____________________________
John Doe
Toronto, Ontario
M3m 1b1
416 123 4567
SWORN BEFORE ME )
In the City of Toronto )
In the Province of Ontario )
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This ______ day of ___________ )
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A Commissioner for taking Affidavits
RCP-E 16B (January 1, 2008)
Re: Told My 11b Motion Was Defective
Did you remember to make the motion before entering a plea of any sort?
I've filed for 11B twice and twice was successful.
First time the prosecutor was nice and did everything for me, she called me up and told the JP i filed for an 11B and it was accepted.
The 2nd time I had to work for it and educate the prosecutor on how an 11B works.
I would agree with ticket combat's advice not to use any of their forms and to just type everything out yourself.
I also didn't bother with the faxing of copies to different places, I took the time and effort to go in person to drop off each copy at the respective offices and have them stamped.
I feel THAT WAY it shows the JP that I did my due diligence and I'm not one to cut corners and I put a lot of effort and detail in what I do.
I can personally say i served each place myself.
Re: Told My 11b Motion Was Defective
The JP did not tell me weather it was the forms or the process that was defective, but I seem to get the impression that it was the form.
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