Incorrect Set Fine, Incorrect Total Payable
First post on this site - must say it has been an EXTREMELY valuable source of info. Well done.
SITUATION - received ticket from OPP; ticket states 127km/h in a 90km/h zone (37 over). Set fine indicated as $282, total payable $347 - clearly incorrect, as these amounts would be commensurate with a 137km/h ticket (i.e. 47 over) base on the current schedules.
Did not notice this at first, so I requested a trial with the officer present, as I was going to fight the ticket on another angle (officer clearly lost sight of the vehicle). However, now that I see the error I will not show up at trial so that Section 9/9.1 of the POA applies and the JP should quash the ticket based on the fact that the set fine and total payable are incorrect (London v. Young, Sudbury v. Leikemoser, Barrie v. Porter).
QUESTION - does anyone have any experience with this, specifically as to whether or not the JP usually picks up on this error an quashes the charge at trial? Or does this normally have to be appealed? Fully prepared to appeal if the JP does not notice the error, but would obviously prefer to not have to. Thanks in advance for any/all replies.
- Reflections
- High Authority
- Posts: 1489
- Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:49 pm
- Location: somewhere in traffic
Re: Incorrect Set Fine, Incorrect Total Payable
I had the same issue as you, the ticket went through.... I had to have the case reopenned.......
Re: Incorrect Set Fine, Incorrect Total Payable
I had the same issue with a fail to stop read light ticket, the JP did not notice the error and I had to appeal. That having been said the appeal process, at least for me, went relatively smoothly and the applet Judge entered an acquittal in my case.
Re: Incorrect Set Fine, Incorrect Total Payable
Dont show, get convicted, appeal on your grounds and get the charge dropped.
Re: Incorrect Set Fine, Incorrect Total Payable
I've heard of another tact to take with these that may be worth trying. Send someone to court on your trial date (do not be there yourself). When the case is called, s/he should step forward, indentify, advise the court that s/he is there only as a friend of the court and is in no way authorized to represent you or enter a plea on your behalf. S/he would then respectfully point out the error to the court and the relevant portion of the POA and case law. If it works, you save the aggravation of an appeal. If not, you haven't lost anything - you still can go to appeal route.
Re: Incorrect Set Fine, Incorrect Total Payable
Thanks for the replies. Sounds like I will likely end up having to appeal it.
One other question - I got a notice saying I could meet with the Crown Attorney prior to the trial to discuss options (at a specified date and time). If I were to go to that meeting and point out the error on the ticket, and the fact that I did not plan to show up for trial, does the Crown have any ability to have the ticket amended PRIOR to the trial? I keep reading about summons vs offence notices - is this something they could do in this situation to get around the fact that there is an error on the ticket?
Re: Incorrect Set Fine, Incorrect Total Payable
I believe the Crown has 6 months from the time the offence took place to issue a summons. So theoretically if you went to the first attendance meeting and pointed out the error on the ticket to the Crown they could withdraw the ticket that has the error on it and issue you summons to court. This would correct the error and eliminate the advantage you have now. I think your best bet is to do nothing, sit back and wait to see what happens.
Re: Incorrect Set Fine, Incorrect Total Payable
SUCCESS
Just to put this to bed -- I received my Notice of Trial sometime end-July, trial date 20 Aug. I did not attend, for the reasons cited above. As of yesterday I had received nothing in the mail, which I would have expected had I been found guilty. So I called the courthouse this morning, and lo and behold - the charge/ticket had been withdrawn. I didn't ask any further details, but I assume it could only have been because the JP actually checked the ticket and found the fine to be incorrect.
So check your tickets VERY carefully - you may get lucky like I did.
Thanks, and good luck to everyone else who deserves a break.
-
- Similar Topics
-
-
New post INCORRECT total payable w/ CORRECT set fine-9.1 conviction
by HTARep in General TalkLast post by Radar Identified Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:29 am
-
-
-
New post Incorrect Set and total Payable fine... Fatal error ?
Last post by akhan1 Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:03 pm
-
-
-
New post Fatal Error for Incorrect Total Payable - Speeding
Last post by UnluckyDuck Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:07 am
-
-
-
New post Incorrect Set Fine, but correct Total Fine - Fatal?
by admin in General TalkLast post by admin Sun Jul 12, 2015 7:51 pm
-
-
-
New post Fatal error due to incorrect set fine and total fine?
by epochfurlan in General TalkLast post by epochfurlan Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:58 pm
-
-
-
New post Incorrect Set Fine Payable - Force Fatal Error
by stickz in General TalkLast post by jsherk Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:17 pm
-
-
-
New post Incorrect Set Fine but Correct Total - Speeding 23km/h over
Last post by daggx Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:37 am
-
-
-
New post Speeding - what should the set fine and total payable be?
by Keroba in Courts and ProcedureLast post by Radar Identified Sat Mar 12, 2011 4:15 pm
-
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 69 guests